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10 hours ago, Atlantis said:Recent youtube reports that Hasbro may be discontinuing its GI JOE exclusive with Target. Its not totally confirmed yet, and we dont know exactly what that will mean if it is confirmed, but my hope is Hasbro will immediately distribute it to all outlets, BBTS, Amazon, local dept stores that usually carry these action figures, etc. If they were to do this not only would we all have a better shot to get the figures we want, its gonna be a big blow to the scalpers. All the figures they bought up, planning to re-sell at 2-3x the actual fair price, they'd then just be stuck with. I'd love to see them get clobbered for a change. But no matter what, the scalper problem is NOT all on us. People need to show theyre willing to walk away and not feed these scalpers, 100%. At the same time, this mess is squarely on Hasbro and Target, and I blame Hasbro more, because its their product, their brand, and they need to step up to fix it. Hopefully.....theyre listening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1ugiedEhI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txCHRDpWKSw Everything you say makes perfect sense and I sure hope it happens. But I doubt it will, precisely because it is what makes the most sense......
1 hour ago, Mr_Scary92 said:Honestly I doubt it, I've seen how Hasbro MX handles all the collector lines and the only one that seems to take precedence is Marvel Legends, Star Wars would come in a very distant background and then everything else. For example they're going to carry some quantities of that overpriced ML Sentinel from the Haslab project but there's no info about GI Joe Classifieds wave 2 coming anytime soon or the remaining waves of the Lighting Collection despite the psycho rangers pack and that wierd one wheeled bike went on pre order in Amazon and has been many months since I saw any Black Series being stocked up in some store. The distribution is simply irregular. Good point there.
I read JayC post when he posted it...(really good read) Like him.....My answers has always been "Don't buy " when they pass your price point or your "principle" point. That's the bottom line...There always going to be Scalpers. From the "corner the market" types (what JayC voiced) or people who purchase extras...When you buy 2 Limited Exclusives are you a Scalper or Just Greedy? Some poor guy can't get his 1. Did you need two? Did you think about that guy? Probably not. I guess you would just tell him; You Slow you Blow dude. Talk to the Scalpers. =^) Just a thought, Greed makes people do all kinds of things...Ask a scalper =^)....Just, IMHO..
On 8/4/2020 at 10:09 AM, JayC said:Truth is though in recent years I am seeing this stuff more easily obtainable for those outside the US than those who live in the US. It depends on which country, I have contact with several other fellow collectors in Canada, Spain, UK, LATAM and some from Asia and have told me about their experiences in this hobby and believe me in the US almost always seems the best country to be a collector.
5 hours ago, K9K1N6 said:I do hope too that Hasbro can distribute it to other stores, heck even to other countries as well (i am looking at you mexico, if they ever bother to do so), but of course this is just a rumor and I'll wait to see if Hasbro will ever mention this or whatsoever. Honestly I doubt it, I've seen how Hasbro MX handles all the collector lines and the only one that seems to take precedence is Marvel Legends, Star Wars would come in a very distant background and then everything else. For example they're going to carry some quantities of that overpriced ML Sentinel from the Haslab project but there's no info about GI Joe Classifieds wave 2 coming anytime soon or the remaining waves of the Lighting Collection despite the psycho rangers pack and that wierd one wheeled bike went on pre order in Amazon and has been many months since I saw any Black Series being stocked up in some store. The distribution is simply irregular.
I do hope too that Hasbro can distribute it to other stores, heck even to other countries as well (i am looking at you mexico, if they ever bother to do so), but of course this is just a rumor and I'll wait to see if Hasbro will ever mention this or whatsoever.
Recent youtube reports that Hasbro may be discontinuing its GI JOE exclusive with Target. Its not totally confirmed yet, and we dont know exactly what that will mean if it is confirmed, but my hope is Hasbro will immediately distribute it to all outlets, BBTS, Amazon, local dept stores that usually carry these action figures, etc. If they were to do this not only would we all have a better shot to get the figures we want, its gonna be a big blow to the scalpers. All the figures they bought up, planning to re-sell at 2-3x the actual fair price, they'd then just be stuck with. I'd love to see them get clobbered for a change. But no matter what, the scalper problem is NOT all on us. People need to show theyre willing to walk away and not feed these scalpers, 100%. At the same time, this mess is squarely on Hasbro and Target, and I blame Hasbro more, because its their product, their brand, and they need to step up to fix it. Hopefully.....theyre listening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1ugiedEhI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txCHRDpWKSw
I refuse to purchase from scalpers I don't care how badly I want something. This is a great read and so many great replies. The thing I hate is there are people who just don't care and will pay $120 for a $60 figure. I remember when the Walmart exclusive marvel legends Captain America worthy was released those things were selling crazy on ebay for $80 I couldn't get any of the sdcc exclusive dbz figures when they were available for $50 now all three of them are on ebay $150 I refuse to buy them I'd rather just watch a video review and be happy for a real collector who owns them I haven't purchased figure from eBay in almost 2 years
Ran across a youtube review yesterday; the guy admitted he gave in to scalpers because he didn't want to deal with mess involving GI Joes. He tried to justify spending 2-3x what these are retailing for. I didn't watch the entire thing because it nauseated me to listen to some fool actually strut about being a weak slave to someone's selfishness and greed. I get wanting to have the toys but, damn, dude, show some self respect.... JayC - 2020-08-04 @ 3:09 pm
30 minutes ago, Thunder_Razor said:There is a lot more to add to the article. The problem is much more deep than it seems. I'm an international collector. I must rely on stores that sell abroad, but since my country over taxes the products from abroad, I use eBay to buy things. Even buying from scalpers, most of time, the figures cost less than buying them from official stores. Me and most of collectors abroad don't have the chance to buy the figures we want in our countries, so eBay is the best, and some times, the only solution. This feeds the scalpers more than anything. There are people with shitloads of money around the Globe, and are willing to pay whatever it costs to have what they want. Some people also like to buy just to show off, and won't save money to do that. Yesterday, selling something rare was a job, very respectable. People would go to an Antique Store, and the seller usually tells a story about that product and justify why that was expensive. For example, I would think that Toybiz Marvel Legends series 1 should be sell for more than 1000 USD. Those figures have an history, they started it all in therms of 6" figures (I'm disregarding Spiderman classics for a reason), super articulated, the very standard of the industry nowadays. Today we have eBay, and it is not about Antiques, it is about interest, scalpers have rare items and wait until they see someone selling a similar item for a given price. Then, they put theirs on sale for more, if that sells, the other scalper sell it for more, and so forth... So, the easier solution was distributing items worldwide, with enough quantity that everyone get what they want. But that is not that simple. The production costs of figures is not cheap, and even a highly demanded figure is going to be a peg warmer if it is over manufactured. Doing what is considered "enough" quantity is also a problem, because scalpers are not dumb, they know the business, and they know what is more demanded, and just buy it all, or all they can. This is true for the new GI Joe line, GI Joe collectors are known for spending lots of money for their collections, so the natural move was buying everything they can and re-sell for an insanely amount of money. So, if figures sold out, they end up in the hands of scalpers, and they charge whatever they want, if figures become peg warmers, then, the companies loose a lot of money, and end up giving up the line... Is there a solution for scalper problem? Yes, there is one, and that solution cannot rely on the collector only. There is no control of people worldwide that cannot buy what they want locally, or people that just want to flex their collections. Auction sites, like eBay should have limits to the price charged, I don't know how much, but should have a limit. They may leave the bidding going on limitless, but the "buy it now" should be cut down, with a button to report the seller if he disrespect the rules. Re-sellers, like Amazon, should also put a limit on the stores that sell through their platform. It worked beautifully during the first months of the Coronavirus pandemic, with scalpers cleaning out drugstores everywhere and re-selling in Amazon for 3 times the actual cost. They just permanently ban those sellers and they ended up sitting on a pile of products they want to scalp people... Those things would not solve the problem, but they would certainly reduce the range of the scalpers... Sorry about my English, it is not my native language... Your right in that it gets even more complicated when it comes to International, but IDK how many US scalpers thrive on international sales. Truth is though in recent years I am seeing this stuff more easily obtainable for those outside the US than those who live in the US.
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