I live in the eternal hope of an absolutely awesome live-action Transformers movie, lol! ? Bee has always been one of my favorites so I'm excited to see this. Hopefully they'll dampen down a few of the things that seemed to really lead the other films more and more astray. Guess we'll see! *fingers crossed* ?
On 10/2/2018 at 12:09 PM, sXeblues said:Exactly... Ive been known to vent my frustration, a time or two. But, beyond getting it out of your system, I dont quite comprehend how some of these folks seem to have turned their whole lives upside down over these things. I thought, and I still think, Last Jedi was an amazing piece of work. I was rocked by it, compelled by it, was on an emotional roller coaster as I watched it, and came away from it absolutelyblown awayby it. And, thats including all of the problems I had with it. WhichI subsequently discussed on Youtube, at length the highs and the lows, as it were through like five or so videos, the majority of which were a half hour in length, to make sure I covered all sides of it. Just for my own self satisfaction, lol.
I probably watched more hours of videos debating The Last Jedi than the movie itself lol Like you have have many feelings and ideas about it and its tough because they did a lot right while doing a lot wrong. Still that last shot absolutely kills the movie for me though, damn kid... lol
20 hours ago, NeedlessImmortals said:I absolutely loved The Last Jedi when it first came out, I think I saw it 5 times and I started watching all the analysis videos that came out afterwards and I can understand all the complaints and I agree with a lot of them and I'll admit is has lessened my enjoyment of the movie significantly because now I just see what could have been compared to what we got and it bums me out but in no way do Ifeel compelled to rage out over it.
Exactly... Ive been known to vent my frustration, a time or two. But, beyond getting it out of your system, I dont quite comprehend how some of these folks seem to have turned their whole lives upside down over these things. I thought, and I still think, Last Jedi was an amazing piece of work. I was rocked by it, compelled by it, was on an emotional roller coaster as I watched it, and came away from it absolutelyblown awayby it. And, thats including all of the problems I had with it. WhichI subsequently discussed on Youtube, at length the highs and the lows, as it were through like five or so videos, the majority of which were a half hour in length, to make sure I covered all sides of it. Just for my own self satisfaction, lol.
16 hours ago, FASVB said:I disagree a bit. We as fans of the classics should voice our dislikes and concerns with how they are taking the classic material and actually destroying it in some occasions. The only thing that I am fully against is the call for violence and persecution of the actors that have nothing to do with the decisions made by Lucasfilm. They are just doing their job;
Yeah the fandom is crazy right now. I never understood all these online death threats stories and hate for an actual actor over a movie. Are people really that stupid that they can't tell the difference between a movie/tv show and real life? They #$## and moan over a studio's bad decisions while completely ignoring their own bad decisions when they post something like that.
15 hours ago, sXeblues said:Hey, Im a guy who makes videos on Youtube, sometimes ranting, sometimes praising this, that or the other thing so I fully embrace everyones having the freedom to express themselves similarly, as long as it remains civil and respectable. I entirely agree with you, there.
But, it is the hatemongering, the threats, the viciousness and bile that truly irks me. And the judgment. If I happen to like a lot of the Last Jedi, for example, thats my subjective taste. IfI rip into all of thethings I didnt like about Last Jedi, that too is my subjective taste. Same goes in the opposite direction. If you tell me that you think Last Jedi was utter garbage, and you express why that is I probably wont agree on all of your points, but Im not going to ridicule and belittle you and threaten tokillyou because we are two individuals with our own particular tastes.
Thats the kind of thing I see as a problem.
You hated Last Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent arealStar Wars fan!
YoulikedLast Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent a real Star Wars fan!
Its this level of twisted fandom entitlement, really. That sits and sulks, and over time, festers and grows into exactly what Yoda warned us all about; Hate and suffering. Because hate by itself, is the worst kind of self involved suffering. The way such negativity breeds and consumes you, on a chemical level, in the brain. Emotionally, and all that. It isnt good for you. Which is why, at best, if Ive ever got a negative opinion on something, I voice it in a video, or a post online, so as to process and let go of as much of thatnegativity as possible. So as not to become consumed by it.
And sadly, too many people never allow themselves that freedom. They dont process it, and they certainly dontmove on. And thats where I see the problem lying.
I absolutely loved The Last Jedi when it first came out, I think I saw it 5 times and I started watching all the analysis videos that came out afterwards and I can understand all the complaints and I agree with a lot of them and I'll admit is has lessened my enjoyment of the movie significantly because now I just see what could have been compared to what we got and it bums me out but in no way do Ifeel compelled to rage out over it.
46 minutes ago, sXeblues said:Thats the kind of thing I see as a problem.
You hated Last Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent arealStar Wars fan!
YoulikedLast Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent a real Star Wars fan!
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Exactly. Everyone can have an opinion.
I have been called an idiot or worse because I voiced how I thonk that these new movies and overall direction Lucasfilm is taking the franchise is ruining everything.
43 minutes ago, FASVB said:I disagree a bit. We as fans of the classics should voice our dislikes and concerns with how they are taking the classic material and actually destroying it in some occasions. The only thing that I am fully against is the call for violence and persecution of the actors that have nothing to do with the decisions made by Lucasfilm. They are just doing their job;
Hey, Im a guy who makes videos on Youtube, sometimes ranting, sometimes praising this, that or the other thing so I fully embrace everyones having the freedom to express themselves similarly, as long as it remains civil and respectable. I entirely agree with you, there.
But, it is the hatemongering, the threats, the viciousness and bile that truly irks me. And the judgment. If I happen to like a lot of the Last Jedi, for example, thats my subjective taste. IfI rip into all of thethings I didnt like about Last Jedi, that too is my subjective taste. Same goes in the opposite direction. If you tell me that you think Last Jedi was utter garbage, and you express why that is I probably wont agree on all of your points, but Im not going to ridicule and belittle you and threaten tokillyou because we are two individuals with our own particular tastes.
Thats the kind of thing I see as a problem.
You hated Last Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent arealStar Wars fan!
YoulikedLast Jedi? Well, youre an idiot and an a-hole and arent a real Star Wars fan!
Its this level of twisted fandom entitlement, really. That sits and sulks, and over time, festers and grows into exactly what Yoda warned us all about; Hate and suffering. Because hate by itself, is the worst kind of self involved suffering. The way such negativity breeds and consumes you, on a chemical level, in the brain. Emotionally, and all that. It isnt good for you. Which is why, at best, if Ive ever got a negative opinion on something, I voice it in a video, or a post online, so as to process and let go of as much of thatnegativity as possible. So as not to become consumed by it.
And sadly, too many people never allow themselves that freedom. They dont process it, and they certainly dontmove on. And thats where I see the problem lying.
5 minutes ago, sXeblues said:I definitely see that Star Wars has been having some problems, as of late... Even though Im in the minority of those who mostly liked Last Jedi and Solo. Neither one being free of issues. But, I never once felt that fandomrageeveryone else seems to. And Ive spent videos discussing the pros and cons as I saw them, at length. But yea, the fandom is kind of the worst part of Star Wars, right now, to me. Too much toxicity.
I disagree a bit. We as fans of the classics should voice our dislikes and concerns with how they are taking the classic material and actually destroying it in some occasions. The only thing that I am fully against is the call for violence and persecution of the actors that have nothing to do with the decisions made by Lucasfilm. They are just doing their job;
7 hours ago, NeedlessImmortals said:Star Wars can't seem to get anything right lately, I'm not even excited for episode XI, more just bracing myself for the outcome and backlash lol
I definitely see that Star Wars has been having some problems, as of late... Even though Im in the minority of those who mostly liked Last Jedi and Solo. Neither one being free of issues. But, I never once felt that fandomrageeveryone else seems to. And Ive spent videos discussing the pros and cons as I saw them, at length. But yea, the fandom is kind of the worst part of Star Wars, right now, to me. Too much toxicity.
Same thing with the Venom trailers, the last ones and the TV spots just show so many new clips and lines. Damnit Sony
The first one shows some clips and then his one shows those clips 3 seconds farther. If I didn't see the first one but watched this one(Or vise versa), then I think it'd be better.
