"Fans fell in love with Anson Mount, Rebecca Romijn and Ethan Peck's portrayals of these iconic characters when they were first introduced on STAR TREK: DISCOVERY last season," said Julie McNamara, Executive Vice President and Head of Programming, CBS All Access. "This new series will be a perfect complement to the franchise, bringing a whole new perspective and series of adventures to 'Star Trek.'"
"When we said we heard the fans' outpouring of love for Pike, Number One and Spock when they boarded STAR TREK: DISCOVERY last season, we meant it," said Alex Kurtzman. "These iconic characters have a deep history in 'Star Trek' canon, yet so much of their stories have yet to be told. With Akiva and Henry at the helm, the Enterprise, its crew and its fans are in for an extraordinary journey to new frontiers in the 'Star Trek' universe."
"This is a dream come true, literally," said Akiva Goldsman. "I have imagined myself on the bridge of the Enterprise since the early 1970s. I'm honored to be a part of this continuing journey along with Alex, Henry and the fine folks at CBS."
On 5/17/2020 at 12:58 AM, Satam said:Neelix might very well be the most annoying character in all of Star Trek.
Haha, too funny! Neelix is the Jar Jar Binks of StarTrek! Voyager was horrible, borderline pathetic. How I would love to watch a great StarTrek show again. I purchased CBS all access with the intention of watching Picard, Discovery, Big bang theory. To my surprise Big bang wasnot there, Picard fell flat, and you know how I feel about Discovery. I cancelled the service not even a month in.
8 hours ago, JayC said:Star Trek is also one of those things that has been around for so long that what appeals to long time fans isnt likely going to appeal to new fans, so its hard to find that balance.
Fair point, but Kurtzman will always be a crap storyteller and has been involved in tanking no fewer than three franchises (one of which was on its first movie), so either of those things alone should be a disqualifier.
On ?5?/?17?/?2020 at 8:18 AM, JayC said:"...My biggest issue with Voyager was that often by the end of each episode the ship would get the #$## beat out of it and then the next episode it was back in pristine condition" ...Yeah, too bad they didn't have revamped Galactica or Expanse to look at to get an ideaof what being cut off would really look like.
"The first season of Discovery was unbearable..." I tried so hard to watch it but I just cant. And I genuinely like Sonequa, and was very pleased to see Michele Yeoh. The visuals are of course spectacular, but overall itsthe kind of thing that makes my head wobble that it wasn't cancelled when so many other great shows were. That first season really shoulda killed this show.
"Picard started off good and I liked some things but overall walked away feeling disappointed..." wow, you and me both. I didn't finish that either. I was expecting to see Jean Luc Picard, not some feeble loser who's getting his ass handed to him by media and officers that shouldn't be worthy of standing in his shadow. And this ridiculous devotion to Data...do the writers not know it was La Forge who was his best friend, NOT Picard?? I'm not saying he shouldn't go on his quest but how does he not have Data's best friend with him when he does? How on earth does this Lt Cmdr get off addressing an Admiral as "JL"? Also what's with the F bombs on this show?
16 hours ago, Satam said:I guess there's the problem. The franchise has someone in charge who claims he loves Star Trek but demonstrates neither love for nor any real knowledge of what's come before the projects he's worked on. He's also an awful writer.
Star Trek is also one of those things that has been around for so long that what appeals to long time fans isnt likely going to appeal to new fans, so its hard to find that balance.
2 hours ago, ext1jvs said:This franchise needs someone in charge that has a love and knowledge of StarTrek, similar to Kevin Fiege in the MCU and the opposite of what Kathleen Kennedy has done for Star Wars.
I guess there's the problem. The franchise has someone in charge who claims he loves Star Trek but demonstrates neither love for nor any real knowledge of what's come before the projects he's worked on. He's also an awful writer.
This franchise needs someone in charge that has a love and knowledge of StarTrek, similar to Kevin Fiege in the MCU and the opposite of what Kathleen Kennedy has done for Star Wars.
I love TOS, DS9 and Next Gen as in I can still go back today and often do and rewatch and enjoy episodes from those shows. Overall out of the 3 I think DS9 was done the best other than the very ending with Sisko. Even though I think DS9 was the best done show, I will always have a fondness for the original Kirk and crew. I can rewatch and again often do all the original movies. 5 is my least favorite but there are still even aspects of that one I enjoy. TMP was to long and it could have used more action, but the visuals and music in that one are still favorites of mine. I love those close-up shots of the refit Enterprise as its leaving spacedock for the first time which had some reuse in STII. Its those shots that make that Enterprise my favorite even today.
Voyager, Enterprise are ok and have some really good episodes sprinkled in throughout their runs, but I don't find myself often going back and rewatching them. Enterprise was the first attempt at a prequel series which I thought started off good but it ended up with the same kind of problems as Discovery. The Enterprise Borg episode and Mirror Universe 2-parter however I thought was nicely done. The final Enterprise episode was bad. I also didn't like the Eugenics storyline where they tried to connect it to Khan and brought Brent Spinner back.
My biggest issue with Voyager was that often by the end of each episode the ship would get the #$## beat out of it and then the next episode it was back in pristine condition. They never did a very good job of staying true to the original concept of portraying a crew and ship completely cut off from Starfleet IMO.
The first season of Discovery was unbearable. Season 2 wasn't fantastic but an improvement over season 1, and again glad they moved the ship to the future.
Picard started off good and I liked some things but overall walked away feeling disappointed. Still there was enough there that I am hopeful season 2 will be better.
I think doing a section 31 series is lame and the fact there never seems to be much movement on it even though it was first announced during the first season of Discovery, I hope they decide to scrap it.
I would like to see a new Trek series taking place during the time of Picard that focuses on the current incarnation of the Enterprise which I am guessing will be on at least letter F by now. They could use Picard to spin off the new Enterprise series which I think would be cool.
3 hours ago, Atlantis said:Frankly I ranted so long in my first post I cut some out.
Yes, I saw DS9, thought it was good. "Just because a group of people belong to the Federation it does not mean that they are saints." - Cmdr Sisko.
Of the post original series, I'd rank TNG and DS9, Voyager last. Voyager often put me to sleep.
I do think they missed some opportunities in DS9....why not really distinguish what a starbase can do that a starship cant? Why was the rank structure for a starbase command so often Commodore in the original series, but dropped to Commander by TNG?
Why were all the other leads on the shows have full Captain rank, but Sisko was a Commander?
If theyre gonna do a starbase, why not a Federation one instead of a Cardassian one? By the way I loved the design of Terok Nor. I know a lot of people hated it.
-They show what a space station can do that a starship can't when the Klingons attack in season 4 and they use the station's defenses to fight off an entire fleet. The station, given it's location and unique situation (former Cardassian now owned by the Bajorans and administrated by Starfleet), is allowed to serve as sort of a "frontier town" for the first few seasons and a marshaling point for Klingon and Starfleet ships (and Cardassian and Dominion ships) in the later seasons, again, which a starship just can't be.
-I had always wondered why, but for some reason they seem to have completely eliminated the rank of commodore by the Berman era and kind of replaced it with rear admiral (one pip). I feel like rear admiral was still a rank in Kirk's time, but you never hear about it. And then Tamlyn Tomita's character in Picard is a commodore. It's almost like Berman just forgot this rank existed.
-Sisko got promoted to captain, but I think him being just a commander in the early seasons helped establish the blue collar nature of the station and the show in comparison to TNG and even Voyager. Also, before the discovery of the wormhole, it seems like Starfleet didn't care all that much about the Deep Space Nine, so putting a commander in charge seems perfectly okay.
-Deep Space Nine being an ex-Cardassian station (now owned by the Bajorans and run by Starfleet) sets up the sort of frontier town nature of the setting, as well as opportunities for flashbacks (through time travel or whatever) to Terok Nor when it was an ore processing station during the occupation, Terok Nor remaining an ore processing station manned by Terran slaves under the Klingon/Cardassian alliance in the mirror universe, conflict between the Bajoran military and Starfleet (Odo vs Eddington and the like), tension between the Federation and the Bajoran government or the Bajoran clergy, Dukat's desire to retake the station later in the show after he vows to "make Cardassia whole again," the "twinning" of Terok Nor and Empok Nor, and a lot of other unique story-telling opportunities for the show that a Starfleet station wouldn't have afforded.
(my two cents...or four. Whatever).And yeah, I never much liked Voyager, either. I liked the doctor and Seven of Nine, but I've never been able to watch through the whole thing. There was a major lack of consistency in the writing. Great episodes were extremely rare ("Year of Hell" being the only one I can think of), and Neelix might very well be the most annoying character in all of Star Trek.
On ?5?/?16?/?2020 at 10:51 AM, Nosferatuman62172 said:Tos, TNG and Ds9 were great, Voyager was meh, Enterprise was ok but got better dining the last season( I feel it never got.its chance to.shine) . I cannot get into these.new shows. There's the continuoty.issues, but there's also just something off about them. They just dont feel like star trek to me. Still I'm curious.to.see.what.happens with.this.series.
I say this now, and not trying to be a d1ck about it, but seriously, the writers for STD and upcoming Pike show really need to watch Better Call Saul and take notes on how to write a prequel.
I don't want to hear about how they "cant follow continuity" because, whatever. They've got 3 seasons to study. Not that much. You damn sure don't get to drop in foster sisters, and "spore" drives (which outstrip anything the Starfleet would come up with in the next 50 years), before they've increased warp technology.
BCS features a brother tothe main character who is integral to the story. That's because Saul was a supporting character in Breaking Bad, and a semi -appearing one at that-he didn't need to be fleshed out like that. Spock is a critical character to not just the series but the entire damn franchise. INCLUDING Voyager, Enterprise, and the movies, even when he's not in them. We look at Sarek, Tuvok and T'Pol thru the lens of what we know about Spock. And we know Spock didn't have a sister, couldn't have a sister, and damn sure Sarek wouldn't be a foster parent to a human kid! He barely tolerated his ownhalf -Vulcan son. Come on!! A prequel doesn't mean you get to put anything in there you want. It needs to flow with the established storyline and what we know Will Be, not what you Want it to be.
10 hours ago, Satam said:You didn't even mention Deep Space Nine. Have you seen it? It's really an outstanding show. It's got a lot of the darkness and serialized story telling of the newer stuff, but it's better written and better acted. TNG, btw, suffered some in the last season because a couple writers went over to work on DS9. Like TNG before it, DS9 takes a bit to find its footing, but it does it much faster, and finishes the first season very strong and doesn't really let up from there. There are a few low points in the second season, but it's much stronger than most of the first, and by the third season, it's solidly the best Trek out there. Taking advantage of the station setting, the writers show that actions have consequences (sometimes far down the line) that you don't get to see when a ship just goes to a different planet every week (they do get a ship, but it's not for exploration), and it also demonstrates that the ideals and principals of the Federation (and Star Trek) require effort to maintain. There are a lot of shades of gray on Deep Space Nine, and the story telling often has a lot of nuance, which is a word I don't think somebody like Alex Kurtzman has ever heard. The show also has the most developed, three-dimensional characters of any Trek series. Even recurring characters have arcs.
Frankly I ranted so long in my first post I cut some out.
Yes, I saw DS9, thought it was good. "Just because a group of people belong to the Federation it does not mean that they are saints." - Cmdr Sisko.
Of the post original series, I'd rank TNG and DS9, Voyager last. Voyager often put me to sleep.
I do think they missed some opportunities in DS9....why not really distinguish what a starbase can do that a starship cant? Why was the rank structure for a starbase command so often Commodore in the original series, but dropped to Commander by TNG?
Why were all the other leads on the shows have full Captain rank, but Sisko was a Commander?
If theyre gonna do a starbase, why not a Federation one instead of a Cardassian one? By the way I loved the design of Terok Nor. I know a lot of people hated it.
