On 10/15/2020 at 11:44 PM, JayC said:According to Todd, Medieval Spawn is likely the next version of Spawn to get the Kickstarter Treatment. In this new video he talks about how it is the one he wants to do next. He does leave the door open that it could be something else by saying he hasn't totally made up his mind.He thinks it would make a "badass" action figure because it would come with tons of cool accessories like a giant shield, big ax, sword, mace with spikes and chain and more. He also wants to make some of the weapons out of actual metal.He also would give it multiple heads with 4-5 different masks. Some of the masks would have hinges so you could lift them up to reveal the skull head inside.On top of that he also showed off his first Kickstarter Spawn at the beginning of the video giving us or most recent look at the progress that figure has made since it was fully funded earlier this year. See Todd's entire video below. No images of an actual new Medieval Spawn have been shown since right now this just seems to be an idea in Todd's head.Do you want to see Medieval Spawn and do you think it should be offered through the crowdsourcing route, let us know in the COMMENTS SECTION below.
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This medieval version Spawn is what my MOTUCCollection is happy to welcome. So fitting... Hope the articulation follows that of Mcfarlane's Fortnight
On 10/15/2020 at 6:57 PM, JayC said:some of you are so hardcore on seeing a mass retail line
I am because I want Todd to 1 dedicate himself to releasing Spawn figures on the regular, 2 for a regular price (I don't need the bells and whistles) , 3 because I want to see all of my favorite characters updated with the new standards of articulation, I just want it to be simple. if anything Mcfarlane can make them more "fan channel" they don't have to be sold at Big box stores, I also just feel offended that he wouldn't think the fans want new accessible Spawn figures and that spawn isn't a line he wants to consider giving us, Spawn is Mcfarlane!
but maybe I'm just one of the few and last Hardcore Spawn people, but I can't be and I've been asking for a new Spawn line for years, I just maybe feel hurt that the people who were buying the toys in the dawn, are being shafted in these times, the people who bought the spawn toys that made the company what it is, are falling on deaf ears.
I think Medieval Spawn is cool and all but damn do Iregret not getting into that original kickstarter, that Spawn figure looks absolutely great, even without hidden torso articulation they removed, it's soooo neat looking, and if anything preposed torso makes it look cooler imo, ugh I wish i had money when that kickstarter happened, maybe just maybe in few year Todd will rerelease this figure and do 2 pack with Batman or something,at least this is how I'm trying to calm myself.
3 hours ago, JayC said:Thats not true. Yes in the beginning he didnt have the ab-crunch, but in a later video as he was making updates to the figure along the way he most certainly did strongly indicate they were looking to add that. I know cause I reported every update he made on it along the way. If your going to highly suggest that is something your going to add then people are going to make an assumption that is going to happen. My point here is he should have never said that if it wasn't already known they could do it cause it was misleading. Sorry but it was.
He didn't strongly indicate it at all and i'm fairly confident of that fact. I think people have gotten theirhopes up based on that one post. Watch all the videos again. All he ever said about the soft abs was the quote i posted:
"We were practising trying to see whether we could do what is a soft chest so that we could get a bend in it. We're trying to figure out whether that's going to work if it doesn't this is just going to be all solid. So we haven't decided that yet."
Above is verbatim taken from update # 9.Nothing further was mentioned and that statement does not in any way shape or form guarantee it was going to happen nor does it strongly indicate anything. Update # 24 is when he told us the abs would be solid; this was post campaign. All the videos between these two updates are either pledge upgrades, celebrating milestones or how to buy multiple figures. I couldn't find anything in these videos relating to the abs.The only other time he played with the prototype was update # 13 where he showed off the cape during which he said nothing about the abs.
I don't think there's anything wrong with showing ideas you're playing around with. He was clear that it wasn't a guarantee and that it was simply something they were trying out to see if they could do it. Clearly between update 9 and 24 they determined that they couldn't. As an FYI, i wanted the soft abs. Also worth noting that there were equal amounts of people commenting that they didnt want it. Many of which thinking the soft "rubber" would rott.
When all is said and done; i have seen numerous guys complain saying Todd is a fraud and that they're selling their figures when they get them. I have also seen numerous guys saying they wish they pledged. I'm pretty sure those who have purchased the figures wont have trouble selling them and in most cases for a profit.
3 hours ago, JayC said:Well the problem with that is your mistaking the purpose of these Kickstarters. And this is true with most toy companies that use this platform to fund their projects. Most Kickstarters are used essentially as a way to guarantee orders, just like when a company does a made to pre-order. It assures they get a certain number of guaranteed orders to justify going forward with the cost of production. Its not oh I don't have the money to make this so I am asking you to give it to me. Its simply I want to make sure there enough people who want this and will buy it so i am essentially asking you to pay up front to get it.
The difference of him going this route as opposed to trying to release it at mass retail is that when you go the mass retail route, it's the mass retailer who dictates how the figure is made, and what figures are made, which generally translates to as cheap as possible and based on sales proven characters ala Batman. A mass retail line at Walmart and Target is going to make his company more money cause he will sell far more quantity than he would with the direct to consumer route, but he will have far less say in how the final product turns out.
The Kickstarter route is actually better for collectors overall cause it's going to give you a more detailed and better made collector oriented figure, however again the question becomes, is the Spawn Todd wants, really the Spawn most collectors want?
Todd is a brilliant salesman. Just watch this video. He really commits to nothing but is trying to tell you everything he thinks you want to hear. Todd is a very talented artist, but I would say his biggest key to success is his ability to make a sales pitch.
It was a joke, Jay C but I appreciate the lengthy explanation, regardless.?
13 hours ago, Belmont13 said:
Well the problem with that is your mistaking the purpose of these Kickstarters. And this is true with most toy companies that use this platform to fund their projects. Most Kickstarters are used essentially as a way to guarantee orders, just like when a company does a made to pre-order. It assures they get a certain number of guaranteed orders to justify going forward with the cost of production. Its not oh I don't have the money to make this so I am asking you to give it to me. Its simply I want to make sure there enough people who want this and will buy it so i am essentially asking you to pay up front to get it.
The difference of him going this route as opposed to trying to release it at mass retail is that when you go the mass retail route, it's the mass retailer who dictates how the figure is made, and what figures are made, which generally translates to as cheap as possible and based on sales proven characters ala Batman. A mass retail line at Walmart and Target is going to make his company more money cause he will sell far more quantity than he would with the direct to consumer route, but he will have far less say in how the final product turns out.
The Kickstarter route is actually better for collectors overall cause it's going to give you a more detailed and better made collector oriented figure, however again the question becomes, is the Spawn Todd wants, really the Spawn most collectors want?
Todd is a brilliant salesman. Just watch this video. He really commits to nothing but is trying to tell you everything he thinks you want to hear. Todd is a very talented artist, but I would say his biggest key to success is his ability to make a sales pitch.
8 hours ago, Krunomo said:Come on Jay that's fake news. The people who are angry were not paying enough attention. When the kickstarter went live there was absolutely no indication that the chest would be soft. In fact there's a 19 second clip on the home page that shows the full articulation breakdown. This clipdoes not include a soft torso or any form of ab crunch. The first and i believe only time we saw the soft ab crunch was the 23rd of April. In the update 9 clip at about 0:42 he says
"We were practising trying to see whether we could do what is a soft chest so that we could get a bend in it. We're trying to figure out whether that's going to work if it doesn't this is just going to be all solid. So we haven't decided that yet."
It's pretty clear to me that was an indication it may or may not happen. Further; by that point just over 50% of funds had already been pledged People keep saying Todd did the old bait and switch but a good look at the clip and what was originally shown clearly indicates that it was never a guarantee. During the campaign he was very active commenting on a good chunk of posts and addressed many concerns people had i.e. the twisted torso.
As far as i see it; when he launches the medievil spawn backers should back based on what they see and listen carefully to his videos. I have no doubt it will do well and it will probably do really well with a neutral torso and cloth cape.
Thats not true. Yes in the beginning he didnt have the ab-crunch, but in a later video as he was making updates to the figure along the way he most certainly did strongly indicate they were looking to add that. I know cause I reported every update he made on it along the way. If your going to highly suggest that is something your going to add then people are going to make an assumption that is going to happen. My point here is he should have never said that if it wasn't already known they could do it cause it was misleading. Sorry but it was.
4 hours ago, JayC said:I think Todd did piss off some backers from the first campaign when he didnt follow through with the mid-section articulation he at one point said was coming.
Come on Jay that's fake news. The people who are angry were not paying enough attention. When the kickstarter went live there was absolutely no indication that the chest would be soft. In fact there's a 19 second clip on the home page that shows the full articulation breakdown. This clipdoes not include a soft torso or any form of ab crunch. The first and i believe only time we saw the soft ab crunch was the 23rd of April. In the update 9 clip at about 0:42 he says
"We were practising trying to see whether we could do what is a soft chest so that we could get a bend in it. We're trying to figure out whether that's going to work if it doesn't this is just going to be all solid. So we haven't decided that yet."
It's pretty clear to me that was an indication it may or may not happen. Further; by that point just over 50% of funds had already been pledged People keep saying Todd did the old bait and switch but a good look at the clip and what was originally shown clearly indicates that it was never a guarantee. During the campaign he was very active commenting on a good chunk of posts and addressed many concerns people had i.e. the twisted torso.
As far as i see it; when he launches the medievil spawn backers should back based on what they see and listen carefully to his videos. I have no doubt it will do well and it will probably do really well with a neutral torso and cloth cape.
I am not sure why some of you are so hardcore on seeing a mass retail line. Retail lines mean 50 gazillion repaints and exclusives to Walmart or Target, and you certainly wouldn't end up with things like real metal weapons.
The Kickstarter route simply put allows Todd to have the freedom to do exactly what he wants and not have to bow down to the likes of Target and Walmart.
Now the big question is... Is the Spawn Todd wants really the Spawn most collectors want? I think Todd did piss off some backers from the first campaign when he didnt follow through with the mid-section articulation he at one point said was coming. I still imagine Todd will have little to know trouble getting this latest figure funded, I think many would fund his Spawn figures even if it only had 5POA, but if there is any lesson I hope he takes from the first Kickstarter, its that he shouldn't indicate he is going to do something unless he truly knows it can be done. If the mid-section joint truly wasn't practical for the first figure as he claimed, that should have been discovered before the campaign even began. Though again I doubt it will do much damage when it comes to this next campaign. You will just see more snide remarks online about it as people complain but then buy it anyway.
