They're Back...Yo Joe!

by Jay Cochran
September 11, 2008
It appears that Hasbro will be giving fan another chance at some of those initially released 25th Anniversary figures. Shown below are the following:

- Duke
- Gung Ho
- Roadblock
- Scarlett
- Storm Shadow


These appear to be the exact same sculpts as previously released.
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gojira77 - 2008-09-20 @ 6:32 pm

Taking a look at the picture, it seems that GH has a corrected crotch, which would be likely since a corrected version of that piece was used on a comic pack Stormshadow. Here's hoping that this new Gung Ho can fit in the New Era Sky Hawk.

CaptainTriumph - 2008-09-20 @ 7:09 am
stop clogging the pegs with these repacked wave revisions and give us some new stuff. THIS S**T IS GOING TO KILL THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont mind a couple of dumb a** repaints here and there but not every other wave . get the characters that we havent seen in a long time out IE HIT N RUN, REPEATER, SOME OF THE VIPER SUB TEAMS.

Actually, when no new figures are coming out, I spend my money buying troopers, vipers, ninjas, etc... to build my armies. If they constantly released new figures, I would be buying them and not working on my army building. I like the break periodically...

Magic 8 Ball - 2008-09-19 @ 4:57 pm
stop clogging the pegs with these repacked wave revisions and give us some new stuff. THIS S**T IS GOING TO KILL THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont mind a couple of dumb a** repaints here and there but not every other wave . get the characters that we havent seen in a long time out IE HIT N RUN, REPEATER, SOME OF THE VIPER SUB TEAMS.

Kill the line? You obviously haven't been reading this thread. Several people have commented that they will happily pick up some of these figures, because they missed them the first few times. Still others have commented on how these figures will keep those who 'came in late' interested, as these are fan-favorite/nostalgic versions of the characters. With them being out around Xmas, they may even bring in new fans.

From the standpoint of the long-time fans and collectors, this is annoying, repetitive, and unnecessary. I'm with ya there. However, from any other POV, the reissues are a good idea and will help extend the life of the line. We can grumble about not getting what we want, because yeah, from our point of view it sucks... but these aren't for us. They're for the people who will expand the fanbase and provide more revenue. All of this points to the reissues being a good idea and extending the life of the line.

xhairs - 2008-09-19 @ 1:16 pm

stop clogging the pegs with these repacked wave revisions and give us some new stuff. THIS S**T IS GOING TO KILL THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont mind a couple of dumb a** repaints here and there but not every other wave . get the characters that we havent seen in a long time out IE HIT N RUN, REPEATER, SOME OF THE VIPER SUB TEAMS.

Straight Edge - 2008-09-18 @ 10:20 pm
As for the "backwards arms" on Gung Ho, a few figures ive bought came like that...all you need to do is simply turn them around, then turn the lower part of the arm around too.

Actually, Gung-Ho is an assembly problem. When you rotate the shoulder as you described, his shoulder ball sticks out way too far, and the musculature sculpted is off. The shoulders can only be "correct" one way, and Gun-Ho's have been shipping backwards since the 5-pack.

This is *absolutely* a problem Hasbro should've dealt with for a rerelease like this. The new Duke and Flint arms should've also been thrown in here.

This is basically a reship of Wave 4 2007, on new cards. It does not impress.

Mr Nobody - 2008-09-18 @ 8:52 pm
The reason I ask is because I just OPENED FLINT for his shotgun. I had no idea I could've gotten that kind of turn-over on a figure I was ambiguous about having to begin with, and I just noticed that the TF version comes with the same shotgun (and appears to be a better-looking figure, IMO).

And what I find funny about your post is that you apparently wanted the shotgun with Flint, yet, the SAME weapon has been in use by Hasbro since 2002. All said, I probably have nearly a dozen of the things in black from my newsculpt purchases.

Not in that green, they didn't. I have about that many in black, too, but I wanted that green one for my de-facto Flint.

Yes, I am THAT particular, even about what color of plastic a weapon is molded in. I'm weird like that. :rolleyes:

Stevy Maximus - 2008-09-16 @ 2:42 am
Really? At an average of $15 for those two figures? May as well blow the extra fin and get a sweet Lady Jaye figure in the bargain.

But the average consumer won't see it that way. VERY FEW consumers see the real value in a majority of the items out there, and this is especially true for toys. You can see it in both GI Joe and Star Wars. Comic packs and multipacks will sell at a FAR slower rate than singles, even when you are seeing the same product in both formats and similar refresh rate. Regular buyers are comparing $7 to $10, which do you think they will pick?

But I'm also looking from the perspective of, the DVD pack will sell to ONE consumer. A case of core characters might sell to several. Even if Mom A only gets Destro, there is still Mom B or C to get the Roadblock. And at $7 a pop, that is almost half the purchase of the DVD pack. The value may be in the comic pack and multipacks, but the MONEY is made on the singles

The reason I ask is because I just OPENED FLINT for his shotgun. I had no idea I could've gotten that kind of turn-over on a figure I was ambiguous about having to begin with, and I just noticed that the TF version comes with the same shotgun (and appears to be a better-looking figure, IMO).

And what I find funny about your post is that you apparently wanted the shotgun with Flint, yet, the SAME weapon has been in use by Hasbro since 2002. All said, I probably have nearly a dozen of the things in black from my newsculpt purchases.

Magic 8 Ball - 2008-09-16 @ 1:43 am
Hasbro is just doing a small run of their chore characters to ensure the average, non-hardcore, consumer has a chance at the recognizable characters, some of which have NOT been readily available all year.

But most of which have, and it has indeed been a 'chore' to get anything in the line that isn't them.

And as I said in my original post, the singles are the driver for this line. They will sell a single Destro and a single Roadblock a LOT easier than a $20 DVD set.

Really? At an average of $15 for those two figures? May as well blow the extra fin and get a sweet Lady Jaye figure in the bargain.

Basically, these aren't really for collectors. We already have all these figures. But the brand has grown a LOT in the past year, and there are a lot of consumers who WILL buy these. These are not taking any "slots" in the line, they are simply being repackaged in a small run to ensure little Johnny's mom can find a Duke, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow this Christmas (again, these aren't due to ship until November, which means Christmas will likely clear a lot of them out)

And here's where I agree and completely mollify my opinion. My comments and entire reaction come from the standpoint of someone who has been collecting this line since day one and has had at least the chance to get 95% of the product. To me, Duke and Storm Shadow are big groans, but to the 'new blood', they are indeed fresh and exciting. As much as it will annoy me to sift through another run of them while I hunt for the BAT, Snow Serpent, and Bazooka that I still can't find, I have to admit that the sale of these figures will help the line continue.

Mr Nobody - 2008-09-15 @ 9:43 pm
....I had to pay 36.00 for the 1wave Flint. It's ridiculous but I finally got him, that was early this summer. No telling what he cost now....

Quoted this post since it was the first to mention Flint.

Was/Is this one that sought after? I had been sitting on both this one and a SE/Timber from last year. The reason I ask is because I just OPENED FLINT for his shotgun. I had no idea I could've gotten that kind of turn-over on a figure I was ambiguous about having to begin with, and I just noticed that the TF version comes with the same shotgun (and appears to be a better-looking figure, IMO).

I still have the SE/Timber pack. Should I try to liquidate this one?

Stevy Maximus - 2008-09-15 @ 5:59 pm
Part of the problem is as others brought up, these are EXACTLY the same. While that is cool, haven't a few of these molds gone through corrections? WHY aren't they using the CORRECTED molds (ie. crotch piece)?

And there is nothing saying they WON'T be reusing corrected parts where available. Figures like Beachhead, and the wave 2 second run a few months back ALL had corrected crotches and stands. Like with most repack waves, Hasbro almost certainly grabbed an existing figure, slapped them on a new cardback, and took the promo picture. It is just like earlier this year when promo images of new figures still had diaper crotch when the final retail product did not.

The other argument against these guys is, this line IS a finite line. There ARE only so many "slots" available. Whether people want to argue that point or not, its still true. If this is a true "bonus" wave, it won't matter for that. But if it is "taking the place" of a wave, then yeah, that sucks.

But these are not taking ANY slots at all. They are not even being marketed as a new wave, this is wave 11, revision 1. Hasbro is just doing a small run of their chore characters to ensure the average, non-hardcore, consumer has a chance at the recognizable characters, some of which have NOT been readily available all year.

And the BIGGEST complaint about these guys is what I just said in the previous paragraph is these guys are all from the original 5-packs and we've ALREADY gotten a "singles wave" of them. In fact, there are a few places here abouts that STILL have them on pegs! So do we need a THIRD crack at them?
"Few" may be the operative term here. Not every area is the same, and from my experiences in Oklahoma, the single repack wave last year moved as fast as the line had done with the previous 3 waves. I still question whether the leftovers from the single wave last year are really as plentiful as some are claiming.

Aside from Snake Eyes and Cobra Commander, NONE of the figures have been available in their original from, single carded, since last Christmas for MOST areas. Destro and Roadblock are in the DVD set, but there is NO guarantee that will still be available in some areas come November. And as I said in my original post, the singles are the driver for this line. They will sell a single Destro and a single Roadblock a LOT easier than a $20 DVD set.

There were plenty of other guys that could have gotten "second chance' treatment. Snow Job, IG Destro, Snake Eyes v2, Storm Shadow v2, BARONESS (I still don't understand why this one figure hasn't been reissued), Stinger Driver, Flash, Tele-Viper, Python (anyone), Crankcase, Grand Slam, Clutch, Rip-It, "Cobra Driver" (that repaint of the Stinger Driver), hell even DOC.

Snow Job, IG Destro, Snake Eyes 2, Storm Shadow 2, and Flash are all reshipping or due to be reshipped in the next couple months. Hasbro is currently pushing the Baroness in her cartoon colors, so it wouldn't be a sound decision to put another version out of an already weak seller. Just about all the others are vehicles drivers THAT ARE STILL SHIPPING. WHY would Hasbro dig into their vehicle sales by releasing the drivers in a single format? They are not stupid (contrary to fan opinion). The only figure with any real merit for reissuing is Crankcase, but Grand slam and Rip It are close enough to figures already on shelves (Flash and HISS Driver) that Hasbro isn't going to push them out.

And I won't even imagine the sh!tstorm that would spin up if Hasbro reissued Doc on a single card less than 6 months after wrapping the mailaway promotion.

Basically, these aren't really for collectors. We already have all these figures. But the brand has grown a LOT in the past year, and there are a lot of consumers who WILL buy these. These are not taking any "slots" in the line, they are simply being repackaged in a small run to ensure little Johnny's mom can find a Duke, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow this Christmas (again, these aren't due to ship until November, which means Christmas will likely clear a lot of them out)

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