11 minutes ago, Goldbug said:The Pike spin-off will kill off Discovery's viewership
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Good. Too bad Kurtzman is still in charge of SNW (and all of Star Trek, unfortunately), but I actually like Pike and Number One, so it's a start. If SNW introduces M'Ress and/or Arex, I might even be happy enough to ignore some of the other $#!% for a while.
The Pike spin-off will kill off Discovery's viewership
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24 minutes ago, Satam said:I had a huge problem with the treatment of Section 31 which in the 22nd and 24th centuries is a clandestine, unsanctioned, super secret organization, and in the 23rd century on Discovery, it's basically just Starfleet Intelligence and REALLY NOT AT ALL A SECRET. I also hated that they turned Harry Mudd into a psychopath. I think there's a lot of writing on that show where the point is "Hey, isn't this cool?" or "Isn't this dark?" instead of trying to tell a good story.
Right! I'm not even a dyed in the wool "trekkie" but even I can see they aren't writing a story, just taking snippets here and there and doing whatever they want because it has the Star Trek name. The visuals are spectacular, but that means little when the writing is so muddled. I am very, very surprised this show got 2 seasons, let alone 3.
41 minutes ago, Atlantis said:I really tried to watch it but its so far removed from what the established Star Trek history is, I couldn't. It has some nice aspects....I do like Captain Georgiou and her mirror counterpart, but I couldn't get past the fact that the mirror universe is never spoken of in the original series until they actually encounter it. It makes no sense that such a thing wouldn't be known, if USS Discovery had discovered it before. Then there's the spore drive. The worse part is the notion that Sarek, father of Spock, adopted a human female and raised her in his household,yet nowhere in the Star Trek canon does Spock, Sarek, orAmanda ever mention him having a sister. And yeah I know people will look at Spock's lunatic brother (that we never heard of)in the movie and go "aha!" but that was bs writing too.
But the real kicker is , if I have to struggle to read your book or watch your program, then its already failed. Above anything else, these are supposed to entertain. This show doesn't do that.
I had a huge problem with the treatment of Section 31 which in the 22nd and 24th centuries is a clandestine, unsanctioned, super secret organization, and in the 23rd century on Discovery, it's basically just Starfleet Intelligence and REALLY NOT AT ALL A SECRET. I also hated that they turned Harry Mudd into a psychopath. I think there's a lot of writing on that show where the point is "Hey, isn't this cool?" or "Isn't this dark?" instead of trying to tell a good story.
15 hours ago, Satam said:I quit watching during season 1.
I really tried to watch it but its so far removed from what the established Star Trek history is, I couldn't. It has some nice aspects....I do like Captain Georgiou and her mirror counterpart, but I couldn't get past the fact that the mirror universe is never spoken of in the original series until they actually encounter it. It makes no sense that such a thing wouldn't be known, if USS Discovery had discovered it before. Then there's the spore drive. The worse part is the notion that Sarek, father of Spock, adopted a human female and raised her in his household,yet nowhere in the Star Trek canon does Spock, Sarek, orAmanda ever mention him having a sister. And yeah I know people will look at Spock's lunatic brother (that we never heard of)in the movie and go "aha!" but that was bs writing too.
But the real kicker is , if I have to struggle to read your book or watch your program, then its already failed. Above anything else, these are supposed to entertain. This show doesn't do that.
I enjoyed this series, I thought it was done since it feels like so long after each season. Glad its coming back.
I quit watching during season 1.
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