The CW In Talks To Developing A Series Based On DC Character 'Naomi'

The CW has pilot orders to three projects: Ava DuVernays superhero drama Naomi, the live-action reboot of The Powerpuff Girls and a millennial nun dramedy exec produced by Jennie Snyder Urman.

The network has also ordered a reboot of classic sci-fi drama The 4400 straight-to-series.

Source: Deadline

When I get 4 reports in 1 day about a topic with members complaining about other members being insulting and using racist language then it's just getting locked.

Look... We got enough crap going on around the world. Let's try and be civil and a little mature when it comes to making posts. If you can't handle it, then leave...

I could be wrong, but that synopsis makes me think they may have a Buffy riff in mind. Gotta say I wouldn't mind that at all. As much as I love a good superhero show, I had forgotten how much I missed those old teen/fantasy adventure shows like Buffy, Roswell, Kyle X-Y, etc.

Might even make a nice block with Stargirl.

Naomi in the main DC Universe (whatever that is after Metal) bruh. You not really hating on the fact that now there are more POC characters taking mantles in the multiverse are you?

Multiverse?? Man you looking at it wrong.

Black Superman and a Black Batman makes the Multiverse a win for me. And italso gives other people their beloved white characters as well. You get Kal-El and I get Calvin Ellis. You get Bruce and I getTim Fox. That sounds like a win-win to me. DC trying to keep y'all happy AND usher in more diversity. They came up with a pretty good way to do it. Don't be stingy.

As I've said before...people can't have it both ways. Folks is screaming "create new POC characters/shows" one day when they feel they beloved white characters get changed "for diversity's sake" and now acting like they don't know (and even more comically can't utilize a search engine to find out...like there's a frickin DC wiki page).

On justice:

She's a "new" character which is what y'all say y'all wanted Tuesday...thencome Wednesday y'all will act brand new and be skeptical because "they arenew" and you'd rather see a show with John Stewart or some established POC character with history." On Thursday y'all will be mad your "favorite" white character isn't the focus because they used the POC character with history and y'all will say "make new characters" and the cycle repeats.

Naomi could do well as a show...it's got some good stuff going for it. What will kill it, it apathy and moving goalpost fans. I'm not mad if someone goes "who is this?" We can talk...especially if someone wants to take the time of finding out who she is before dismissing her.

As I said before, I've never heard of the character, but I hope the show does well. The CW needs a few more good shows.

On the down-side, I've grown to really hate these multiverse story-lines. It's just gotten a bit overdone.

Since a number of you have demonstrated not being able to discuss this topic without getting off track and attacking one another and calling each other names I suggest you move on since it seems to be one your not able to discuss in a civil manner. However if you do decide to post again and you try taking it off topic or attack someone your going to be gone. Consider this the only warning.

I don't think anyone knows whether this show will be good or not. For me personally, I've never heard of the character before, now granted I dont read many modern comics due to high prices mostly, so from a comic book stand point there is nothing there to prompt me to want to watch it. That doesn't mean it will be bad, it just means there is no strong pull at this time for me to be interested in it. If once it airs and I start hearing good things about it, not cause its based on a comic character but because its a well made show then I might start checking it out.

8 hours ago, Mangle77 said:

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Like I said before, money's tight. I have haven't been buying monthly comics for the past few years, because I've been broke. Like, I almost died of pneumonia from sleeping in a tent at a homeless shelter last year, broke. Even when I did have money for comics, I probably wouldn't have picked up a book that just had someone's first name as the title. That just wouldn't grab my attention. Add BMB's name on the cover, and I REALLY wouldn't waste money on it. The bestBendis story I've readwas whenSquirrel Girl babysat for Luke and Jessica; perfect use of Doreen's talents. I don't mean that as a knock against Squirrel Girl, but they got carried away with her after that.

Had you led with that...the course would have been different...but you didn't. You broke out a toxic retort to justify your position. Just saying.

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Miles, yes. RiRi STOLE her first suit. Titania threw her fight against Jane because "women gotta stick together". (Titania's villainous career is built on 2 things: her relationship with Absorbing Man, and her jealousy towards She-Hulk.)

RiRi lost her frickin dad and a friend of hers. She's smart as hell and constantly has to work to be seen as smart and not just a Black chick/person. If you don't have a context on that...stop now. Titania "threw the fight"....bruh the villian win rate for any superhero is ABYSMAL. RiRi wins and the villainlets her but when Spider Man beats the GG because he's gloating that's a hard won v? Stop it dude lol...if we are being consistent, every supervillian throws fights by gloating, tying up the hero, delaying the win, etc. It's not cool to act like POC heroes have stuff handed to them. They work just as hard (honestly harder if we are being honest) because they have to get the "approval" of not just the comic world...but readers on the outside.

On 12/17/2020 at 10:19 AM, JayC said:

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I gotta disagree. Yes there is def an element of toxic fandom out there but I don't believe thats why movies like the sequels failed. That is basically saying people can't think for themselves and because some people screamed loudly everyone listened. I think people and the media give to much credit to toxic people. The media does it because it makes for engaging news that gets them clicks and views.

I did note that was PART of why the ST sucked (aside from no plan, letting Abrams do the first one, letting Johnson go the opposite direction, bringing Abrams back). But toxic fandom really kicked into high gear after the horrible TLJ. It was already swirling with what Marvel/DC was doing and the two storms combined into one hateful gestalt.Toxic fan reaction to Rose, Rey, and Finn push a abysmal "course correction." While every not fan acted horrible...enoughdid that it was unpalatable and stomach churning. Even ONE is one too many for that garbage and it was far higher than that. But each their own on it....

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I think people can actually think for themselves and sometimes a movie doesnt do well simply because it wasn't good. For anyone who didnt see Star Wars because they choose to make a female a lead character I guarantee there were those who went to see it because it did have a female as a lead character.

It wasn't good...at all. I can agree with everyfan that dislikes the film. What I can't/won't agree with is when people used bigoted rationales to "justify" their hate, play victim, scream they are being replaced, and prance around with disturbing positions in a attempt to go backwards based on skin color/gender. Especially in a fandom that has aliens, mutants, heroes, etc. I high five anyone that says TLJ kicked crap over where we as a fandom expected/wanted Luke to be at that point in his life....especially after the EU showed us better/different. On the other spectrum...if people start talking SJW/pandering/etc...I might have some pushback on that.

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Solo was a decent movie but I think Disney's track record on SW is why people didnt give it the chance, that and many just had a hard time watching anyone but Harrison Ford play Han Solo.

Solo was a pretty dang good movie. Some people made that movie pay for the "injustices" that came from TLJ. And Lando being retconned as "pansexual"...especially in light of the perceived pandering invasion didn't help.

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There will always be toxic people out there and the internet provides voices to everyone including the toxic people, thats not going to change. That doesn't mean we should empower those toxic people by giving them so much attention. Just like I mentioned above, if someone has an opinion you dont like, you don't actually have to waste time and energy engaging that person. In fact the worse thing you can do to someone who is deliberately trying to be toxic is ignore them. Its generally attention even if its negative attention they crave. Your certainly not going to change their mind or some how change how they are. Its one thing to post a counter point and move on, but its another when you go back and fourth rehashing the same things over and over.

I'm going to try to say this as respectfully as I can...the position of "they'll always be out there" only works for people who aren't targets of it. It's easy to take that position if it's not directed at you. We empower them by letting them air their horrible opinions and acting like it's just as valid as decent discourse. It's not...period. It's not cool, it's not trendy...it's horrible and should have no place in the fandom. But if it does (free speech and everything) then people who speak sideways shouldn't then clutch their pearls when someone claps back at them. Your board your rules...just understand that part of where we are today isn't just because those kinds of people say whatever they say. It's because people let them say it. They didn't call them out. They ignored it because it wasn't directed at them. Hell maybe they agreed. So those people got emboldened. What was a whisper became a shout. It's here on TNI(I can say names)...and no one said anything. We know it's out there. This place should be better. Opinions are one thing. Don't like/know Naomi? Ok cool we can hash that out. But when folks start that "create new Black characters stop replacing ours/ use existing Black characters notmake new ones" tripe...that the kind of talktoxic people useto peddle their bs agenda. I get that a person (here) saying these thing may notmake not be truly toxic...but they have no qualms vocalizing toxic mentalities. So if toxic people hear you speaking and think you are one of them...what does that make you?

16 hours ago, kILLMonger said:

Your lack of knowledge on Naomi's is no ones fault but yours.

Like I said before, money's tight. I have haven't been buying monthly comics for the past few years, because I've been broke. Like, I almost died of pneumonia from sleeping in a tent at a homeless shelter last year, broke. Even when I did have money for comics, I probably wouldn't have picked up a book that just had someone's first name as the title. That just wouldn't grab my attention. Add BMB's name on the cover, and I REALLY wouldn't waste money on it. The bestBendis story I've readwas whenSquirrel Girl babysat for Luke and Jessica; perfect use of Doreen's talents. I don't mean that as a knock against Squirrel Girl, but they got carried away with her after that.

16 hours ago, kILLMonger said:

Miles struggled, RiRi struggled, Jane Foster struggled.

Miles, yes. RiRi STOLE her first suit. Titania threw her fight against Jane because "women gotta stick together". (Titania's villainous career is built on 2 things: her relationship with Absorbing Man, and her jealousy towards She-Hulk.)

16 hours ago, kILLMonger said:

Guardian was Black though

Which Guardian, though? Not the one Jack the King" Kirby created. But I can let that one go; they never really did right by Roy Harper in my opinion, and couldn't explore his relationship toJim Harper correctly because of the multiverse thing, anyway.

16 hours ago, kILLMonger said:

Black Lighting has history. Did you watch it? Lots of fans didn't...you know why? Because it was perceived as a "Black show" about "Black issues" and was "to preachy and pushing a SJW agenda." Moving the goal post again

I did watch Black Lightning, and for the most part, I liked it. It DID get preachy at times, but I was OK with it. I REALLYdidn't like what they did with Looker, and I would have preferred if Grace had been a Bana-Mighdall (Amazon) like in the comics. Again, multiverse shenanigans & DC/WB's weird internal rivalries. I'd LOVE to see a live action version of the Outsiders, but that's...unlikely.It saddens me that DC has technically had the rights to ALL of their characters at the same studio, but hasn't been able to get their act together to create a single, cohesive, shared universe.

So far.